. >> chris: sandy learner is talk about sustainable farming, raising livestock and growing vegetables without the chemicals that are so common in what she calls factory farming. just case before thanksgiving, she took me out to see and, yes, to dance with her 1300 turkeys, heritage breeds that trace back to the indians. >> gobble, gobble, gobble, gobble! gobble, gobble, gobble... >> chris: she's mistress of 800 acres in upperville, virginia but as interesting as her business is how she got here. she grew up on a farm in california, making enough from raising cattle to send herself to college. >> what i learned was, to love work, i'm happiest when i'm engaged and working and thinking, and, striving. >> chris: she got into computers, in 1984, she and her then husband, started cisco systems. they found a way to link networks of computers, the foundation of the internet. but, six years later venture capital people were running cisco. >> chris: how do you get fired from a company that you started? >> we just basically got taken to the cleaners and part of that was, if you don't have an emp